It really depends where you live & work in LA, since its a sprawling city/county. I am also a native Southern Californian, and while I wouldnt go so far as to say 2 hours is completely normal, it is not at *all* unusual. I dont EVER want to own a house (unless I miraculously come into enough money to buy it outright and have lots left over for taxes, maintenance, insurance, etc and to hire someone to oversee it all!) (Okay, once a month theres the ferry schedule/Seattle traffic to plan around to get to Sea-Tac, but walking down the hall to the office the rest of the time more than makes up for it.). The only short commute Ive ever had was a 3-month retail job down the hill from my parents house, which was usually ~5-10 minutes. our employee is taking nude photos in our office and posting them to Facebook, company says only moms can work at home, was I rude for turning down a carpool, and more, overreaching wellness meetings, rambling coworker monopolizing trainings, and more. Right now Im willing to make less money to work at a job with flexible hours (I work 7am-3/4pm) so I can avoid traffic. The commute is one of my top criteria in deciding whether or not to take a job. When I lived in Houston, my commute for 30 miles was about 45 minute-1 hour drive in the morning and 1.5 hour drive in the evening. His job is flexible and would allow him to work from home at least 2-3 days a week and commute only when necessary, but if it comes up when Im interviewing in the city people always seem shocked because of the part of the country were in. It is working for us because most of the commute is on public transit. severe financial hardship) or I could work during the commute and cut down time at the office. I still miss Shaw, but I figure once I graduate (! If you dont want to drive for 2.5 hours in LA, I hen you need to live closer to where you work unfortunately. Every time I get salty about our COL I remember that California is above and far beyond. My commute from my bed to my desk is 3 minutes. Echoing all the other sentiments of normal is not necessarily ok or sustainable. I currently live between OC and LA and love where I am its cheap, quiet, pretty and all my friends are here. Yeah that is the thing for me. Say you didnt realize the reality of LA traffic and your current situation is not sustainable in the longterm, and what makes sense from here? I couldnt do it. As far as I was concerned, it was better than a million dollars and a mansion in Beverly Hills because those three things were exactly what I wanted. What I have found in many cities Ive lived, including Los Angeles, is that even though a circuitous surface route might be slightly more miles, it can often be quicker than taking the freeway. Im in LA area and have decided to only use Waze if Ive feeling adventurous, have a full tank of gas, and my common sense has taken leave of me. I have been on the Metro many times, including the blue line going through Compton at 1am, and never felt unsafe. Today's show will cover all the different aspects of remote work. I have a friend, God bless her, who lived in Running Springs and worked in Woodland Hills. Just try me.). Or you could make a post on the Los Angeles subreddit; theres someone there that could build you an ebike for ~$2000. Yeah I agree that thats a SoCal thing. The commute from north/south might be different. 30 miles seems like a long commute distance-wise for the LA area, but 2 hours is what I would expect that to take during rush hour. We used to live the next county over, and our commute was easily 45+ minutes (including daycare dropoff). I am so thankful that I work from home. Normal can die in a fire. This is why we are hoping Elon Musk gets hyperloop technology built beneath LA! It was ridiculous; I stuck it out until I was able to transfer closer a couple years ago. Ive lived in Los Angeles all my life, and long commutes are a thing here. AND, it didnt matter what mode of transportation I took; train to Union Station to Metro with a 1/2 mile walk to the office took the same 2 hours as driving and parking a few blocks away (because it was about $40 in my building). (Not that it needs to be made to sound worse, but there may be a grass-is-greener situation happening where they think about their old life). I am lucky I live and work within one mile of each other (in West L.A., thank you rent control!) And that would have to be for a super terrific, well-paid job. Was just going to post a question about ways to make the commute bearable. I did jump and scream at least once, though, getting wary looks from other commuters, heh. Yes I am so on board for self driving cars just because of commuting!! This makes me so sad. 1hr 15 each way for me, but it is via train/walking. In my line of work, there are not many opportunities closer to my house and if there are, the pay would not be nearly what it is in the city. Now my commute is 10-15 minutes, depending on when I leave for work. Maybe hell approve your working from home a couple days a week to a least cut down on the commute, or come up with another solution you havent thought of. It can be normal just off of congestion. The last time I was in Eastern Cali was going to Reno during Obamas first run and Prop 8Ive never wanted out of somewhere so bad and I was just passing through. Im Bay Area and peninsula to city (or peninsula to SJC) is easily 1o miles and 90 minutes. A 2 Hour Commute to Work is Nothing If You Know How by Rachel Lau January 26, 2018 Photography by Amin. Because reaction time and stopping distance is a thing, the following happens: Car A starts moving 2 seconds later Car B starts 2 seconds after *that* Car C starts so car number ten has a 20 second total delay. If OP reads this and thinks, You know, thats not at all the tone hes using, and I dont think hes trying to convince me Im foolish for feeling stressed about this, then hooray. Its not just the drive time, its the stress. When I had to commute via the subway, it was 20 minutes at most (I also live near three different subway lines). I dont think Ive ever worked anywhere more than a 20, 25 minute drive away and usually far less than that. No kidding! "It's kind of an adventure to me," says Coughlin . We live between OC and LA, but he commutes into OC (17 miles). Get a budget card and park m deck. But that assumes (1) each of these people are physically capable of biking long distances (personally I look healthy but my body is terrible and I couldnt) and (2) there are actually useable bike routes along the way. Bad traffic day, more like 75 minutes. My old job used to get us to commute to a neighbouring city a couple of times a week- 1.5-2 hours each way. I dont even care if its normal or not for the area, it feels awfully stressful and unhealthy. As someone who grew in Rural Washington, I completely understand! I put in the mileage and it turns out that you need to move at least 50 miles closer to work in order to qualify for it, which annoyed me because Id only moved 30 but in my area thats a difference of at least three total hours of commuting time. I used to live in Santa Clara and commuted 11 miles to Mountain View- 55 minute drive. Here's better advice: Utilize the Park and Rides from Metro, or the commuter shuttles in your area like The Woodlands Express. 2 hours! In bed by 9-10PM Where I live a commute that takes an hour in a car at peak traffic takes about 20 minutes on a moped. There are NO single family houses for sale for under a million anymore. I started them a year and a half ago and theyve changed my whole commute life. It's quite a chunk out of your day. I dont work work from home either, just happen to literally be able to walk to work. If it snows, anywhere from 1-3 hours. LA traffic was nowhere as bad as the 401 in the Toronto area. 30 miles of doom and gloom of 90 to Aurora, no good. If Its an hour Id prefer to be walking or using public transit though hate being stuck in a car. Sigh! Never again. People love to gripe about traffic, but it only will make you feel worse. However, I used to commute down to South Lake Union every day, and the commute was easily 2 hours each way, sometimes longer. I wish you luck adjusting your circumstances to something that works for you! Or if you live in suburbs with poor public transit and no BART access (or cant afford BART over bus fare). It may be normal there, but it greatly informed my decision to move elsewhere after I graduated. Sometimes I would take the commuter bus into downtown, then hop on the Expo line to work. Just because it is normal doesnt mean its sane. It might be normal for LA, but it can really kill your quality of life. Id just say that you should see if you can find a new job before you quit. Pretty sure Id lose my mind if I sat in traffic, barely moving, for two hours. I couldnt imagine having that kind of commute without public transit. Most of my friends live 25-30 miles north, so I see them on the weekends or evenings when I can do the drive sans traffic. Im from Sunnyvale and I go to college in Merced. each way. Someone mentioned Santa Monica above you would be hard pressed to find a 1-bedroom apartment for under $2000 a month. i would quit immediately (if moving is not an option). And because public transit is sparse, the region broad, and the population dense, you have more cars on the road than the infrastructure can really handle. Maybe a little more would be okay, but two hours, no way. I hear Atlanta is even worse. They were choosing between two seemingly equal suburbs on opposite sides of the city. Makes sense if you receive more benefit on the other 6 days of the week. Now my commute is 25 minutes on one bus. Both hubby and I had long commutes in our previous jobs, but within the last few years got jobs in new locations much closer to home with much better commutes. So has anyone had the experience of such a long commute? Oh, I saw that you said it was Long Beach and working in WeHo. Even a cab will take me about 30 minutes due to rush hour traffic. Are you happy doing it is the question. Im with you, city rush hour traffic is pretty much the absolute worst kind of driving. Since hes from a smaller town, he never really got used to commuting and hates it passionately. I struggle with understanding why more people on the road means everyone drives slower. I live 15 miles from all directions from Boston. Walk. Now I live in Charlotte, NC, and my drive is 20 minutes (25 at the most.) Are you getting paid enough for that? Im one of the rare people who live in the same city as my employer, although only because I cant afford to move. But I know LAs subway system isnt the best, so its not practical for every commute. I got an apartment with a roommate 3 miles away from my office after that. Is it 1 hr, 15 mins? Public transit is not that amazing, especially if you are outside the city core. Gods bless manual transmissions, I can usually avoid it unless its very sudden deceleration. Are there poorly placed stops right after the off ramps that jam them up? Get up at 5AM and do it all again. I commuted from Diamond Bar to Burbank. Which went on for well over a year on the stretch of road I was commuting on? Lolol. 1000 cars can go 60 mph just as well as 10 cars as long as theyre all going the same speed. To be fair, being ok with a 4 hr commute doesnt mean they dont value their lives & people in it. Normal is not the same as reasonable. Anything can become normal if enough people do it, like spending 90% of your waking, non-work hours sitting in a shiny metal box stuck on a road, but that doesnt mean its a reasonable thing to accept. Ive done the long commutes before and theyre just not worth. I live in the Bay Area too and 30 miles is never two hours well unless you go through SF. I live in West LA and used to live in Westwood those might sound like suburbs, but theyre actually LA proper (controlled by LA city council and mayor). For my next job I am trying very hard to not have to cross the river. Theres a lot of data out there suggesting how bad commutes are for you in a lot of ways people dont typically think of. I have friends who live in Orange County and have two hour commutes each way. I mean because I've never had to do this drive on a regular basis for long periods of time. Welcome to life in LaLaLand! That was years ago. For some fellow locals, its a major stressor but it doesnt bother me much. Its normal if you live in the Valley and work in West LA. If the traffic in LA in untenable for you, it isnt unreasonable to move to another city if that is a possibility for you. It gave up just about all of that when it converted to the freeway religion. Its a reality and unsustainable. And I can afford my apartment. But to alleviate his stress levels, its worth it to us to move to a location that will shorten and ease his commute. Interestingly, I had the reverse situation as youin NYC I found it more expensive to live and had a longer commute. I would live here over LA any day of the week. No matter what normal is, you have to go with whats feasible for you. It is a busy show -- so stay tuned. Front Runner (mass transit) is about 90 minutes. In theory, you can have densely packed cars drive. Some folks could handle this and would be fine, and others are not okay with this sort of commute. Perhaps you should take your own advice about making unwarranted assumptions? 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